Meeting Agendas & Minutes


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Sawyer County Forestry Committee

February 3, 2005


Committee Members Present:                 Shirley Riedmann           Shirley Suhsen              Jim Bassett                   Bill Voight


County Personnel Present:                     Mike Kruger                   Kris Mayberry                Don Mrotek      

                                                            Mike Coleson


DNR Personnel Present:                         Larry Glodoski               Jim Ross                       Dave Kafura                              


Others Present:                                     Terrell Boettcher            Bruce McMillan              Susan McMillan

                                                            Glen Cutsforth               Mike Paul                      Rich Good

                                                            Pete Weatherhead        


The meeting was called to order at 9:30a.m. by Chairperson Riedmann.


Motion by Suhsen, second by Voight to approve the agenda with the addition of Closed Session and Request

by Forestry Department personnel for 10 hour days  Motion carried.


Motion by Bassett, second by Riedmann to approve the minutes of the January 4, 2005 meeting   Motion carried.


Event Dates




SpectraSite request for permission to place accessory building at communication tower site


The sites were GPS'd by Brian Cody and Gary Gillis.  The information was given to T. Connet in the Mapping Department.  No action taken.


Timber Sale Discussion - Rich Good


Voight asked Rich Good to speak about the Logging Congress competition.  Rich placed 2nd and will be going to Sweden in June to compete internationally.


Mr. Good stated that the image of forestry is changing.  The article that appeared in the Sawyer County Record stated that 20-30% of the county timber is unaccounted for.  He would like to see this information in writing.  He is concerned that the image of loggers is being hurt by such statements.  He works a lot of private timber cutting jobs besides on County land.  He passed out a letter from a satisfied customer.  He also passed out a copy of the Master Logger Certification folder.  The weight conversions from stump to mill was discussed and may need to be looked at.  Riedmann stated that a member from the logging interest is invited to come to the meetings to present their perspective to the Committee on logging issues.  Riedmann will also include the weight conversion topic on the February joint DNR/Forestry monthly meeting agenda.


Fairground Timber cut - Fair Board request


After discussion, a motion was made by Suhsen and seconded by Voight to approved the payment of $3410.00 from the Resource Development Fund collected from timber cut at the fairground property to help offset the gravel expenses incurred by the Fair Board.  Motion carried.


County Forest 10-Year-Plan Update


A meeting was held on January 12th to go through Chapters 600, 700, 900, 1000, 2000 and 3000.  Revisions are in process.  Awaiting DNR comments on Chapters 100 and 800.  The entire plan will be made available to the County Board by early March.


ATV Trails/Logging Roads - Mike Paul


Mr. Paul asked if ATV's could use skid trails for access as there has been a problem in the Town of Edgewater.  The 10-Year-Plan does state that "a roadway is defined as an open lane that is wide enough for a 4-wheeled licensed vehicle to travel without causing it damage.  Old trails which are grown over, skid trails or other narrow passageways are not to be considered roadways.  Cross-country travel off of a roadway is prohibited."  A

question was raised regarding licensed vehicle.  The wording of the 10-Year-Plan will be changed to read "a roadway is defined as an open lane that is wide enough for a 4-wheeled vehicle licensed for public roadways".

Mr. Paul also questioned the penalty and who was responsible for enforcement.  The penalty, as listed in the current 10-Year-Plan is $200.00.  Penalties will be reviewed as to specific situations.  The Sheriff's Department will be contacted to see who has authority for enforcement of this ordinance within the towns.


Letter of Support - County Forest Comprehensive Land Use Plan process proposed legislative change (10 to 15 years)


Motion by Suhsen, second by Voight to send letter of support to our legislators.  Motion carried.


Notice of Violation and Claim - Camp Smith Lake - insurance carrier notification


Kris Mayberry stated that the DNR had 120 days to make note of an action which could result in corrective action or fine.  He also stated that no losses can be claimed under the County insurance.  The County does not need to make a response to the letter at this time.


2005 Roads and Trails Plan


Riedmann stated that at the next joint DNR/Foresters meeting, they will start working on a 2005 plan and bring recommendations to the Committee regarding roads and trail work.


Recreational Cabin Permit - 2005-2010 renewal


The Draft Memo was reviewed.  Suhsen suggested that a sentence should be added regarding who is responsible for removal if the permit is not renewed.  


Motion by Bassett, second by Suhsen to continue with $500.00 permit fee and add $500.00 Hunting Camp Disposal Fund to be held by Sawyer County and used in case the County has to remove the cabin from County lands.  If the cabin owner removes and cleans up the site after removal, the monies in the Hunting Camp Disposal Fund would be refunded.  Motion carried.  Voight abstained.


Voight stated that 51 of the cabins are in his District and three people have stated that they are considering purchasing private property to move the cabin to. 


Bassett stated that he would like to move on allowing camping on County Land in the 10-Year-Plan.


Proper disposal of abandoned buildings - Jim Ross, DNR, Spooner


Mr. Ross explained materials that were passed out regarding disposal of buildings.  In order to burn the buildings legally, a permit would be needed for asbestos removal and a local fire department could use it for a fire practice training.


The County could hire a contractor to inspect the buildings for asbestos under a "group notice." 


The total cost for removal a cabin could run from $2000-$3000.


He recommends and encourages recycling of cabin components to reduce the total volume. 


Larry Glodoski stated that Dale Olson, Land and Water Conservation told him that any wells would have to be pulled, not filled in.


A list of options for removal of cabins will be sent with cabin permit renewals.


Sawyer County Snowmobile Coordinator report


Don Mrotek:  1) Has received some complaints including Camp Smith lake and groomer complaints.  2) Presented calendar of time and meetings attended (copy on file).  3) Letter regarding Town of Couderay - not allowing snowmobile and ATV's on town roads.  Bassett stated that the town is putting this item on referendum so the people of town can decide.  4) A list of roads and trails to be worked will be given to Mike Kruger.  5) A list of rehab trails will be presented.  6)  Attended training on Stormwater.  7) The insert that goes in the snowmobile/ATV map needs to be revised due to spring closures.  8) Trails were in excellent condition last weekend with numerous people riding the trails.


Sawyer County Forestry Report


Mike Kruger:  1) A check has been received from Midwest Timber for permit for storing wood north of the Rusk County line.  The permit language states that the permit is good for 2 years with an option to extend it one more year which was not the original agreement.  Kruger was instructed to line out and initial the option.  The permit fee is $500/year.  Dave Kafura stated that a the DNR may require a Stormwater permit and the County should check on this.


DNR Forestry Report


Larry Glodoski:  1) Presented information on BMP workshop.  Kruger stated that he has already signed up Pete S., Jeff S. and himself to attend.  2) Don Hoeft has been putting in a lot of hours marking trees - close to 500 acres marked.


Purchase proposals and specifications for new forestry vehicle


Purchase proposals were received from:  Gillis Motors, Hayward - Chevy truck - $19,528.00; Don Johnson Auto Group, Hayward - $19,187.12; and Von Holzen Auto and Truck Center, Ashland - $19,136.00.  A motion was made by Voight, second by Riedmann to accept proposal from Don Johnson.  Discussion followed regarding accepting the lowest bid.  Voight/Riemann rescinded motion and second.  Motion by Suhsen, second by Riedmann to accept bid proposal from Von Holzen for $19,136.00.  Motion carried.


Surveillance camera update


Kruger reported that the Sheriff's Department has not done anything with our camera.  They are looking at new digital cameras.  The DNR camera is still on backorder at Cabelas.


Job description - Forester/Recreational Trail Coordinator


The Forester/Recreational Trail Coordinator job description states that position "requires minimum of 2 weekends per month."  Kruger will schedule Jeff for surveillance on a regular basis.


Request for four ten-hour days for forestry positions


Motion by Suhsen, second by Bassett to keep the work schedule the same as the Side Letter of Understanding approved by the Board of Supervisors in July 2004 and approved by AFSCME 1213-C in August 2004.  (Copy on file).   The work scheduled would be for four ten-hour days from May 1 to November 1, with the day starting at 6:00 a.m. and ending at 4:00 p.m.  Motion carried.


SCFA Forest Administrators meeting - March 17-18, 2005


Mike Kruger will attend meeting.


Joint County/DNR Foresters meeting - January 20, 2005


Minutes were sent with agenda.


Other matters for discussion only


Mike Coleson, IT Department - Explained information regarding new computer for Forestry Department to include ArcView software - cost $3,200.00.  Coleson is to submit order to purchase.


Dee passed out the Current Timber Sale Status report, logger report and Forestry Department totals for January 2005.


Monthly vouchers


Motion by Bassett, second by Voight to approve vouchers as presented.  Motion carried.


Closed Session


At 11:45 a.m. a motion was made by Bassett, second by Riedmann to convene into Closed Session as authorized by Wisconsin State Statutes 19.85(1)(c) to consider compensation and performance evaluation of County Forester Administrator. 


At 12:19 p.m. a motion was made by Suhsen and seconded by Bassett to re-convene into Open Session and simultaneously adjourn.  Motion carried.  Meeting adjourned at 12:19 p.m.  [Minutes of Closed Sessions are kept in a confidential file in the County Clerk's office).




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